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economic soundness to this country. that take as big deal. a lot of pain. democrats are upset the president talked about pain on their side of the ail and republicans are saying no way will we give tax relief to middle income americans. they want to continue tax relief to the wealthy. everyone agrees a number around $4 trillion will make a serious debt on our deficit. it will send a statement to the world that the u.s. has gotten ahold of their fiscal problems and they are moving forward. it will give confidence to the american people that we can move forward to bring economic soundness. that's the president's commitment. >> 6:00 on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." look at that nice live look at times square. joe is looking spify today. he went shopping. it is monday, july 11th. >> i don't know what that means. >> we have msnbc -- well, yes. this is unusual. we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, john heilemann. what's so funny? >> yeah, what's so funny? i don't get it. he's back. >> we can't get him to leave. we have "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner and in washington
in three weeks the president continued to press for a big deal to raise the debt ceiling and to reduce the deficit by $4 trillion. >> i am still pushing for us to achieve a big deal. but what i also said to the group is if we can't do the biggest deal possible, then let's still be ambitious. let's still try to at least get a down payme on deficit reduction. we are obviously running out of time. and so what i have said to the members of congress is that you need over the next 24 to 36 hours to give me some sense of whayour plan is to get the debt ceiling rais through whatever mechanisms they can think about and show me a plan in tes of what you are doing for deficit and debt reduction. if they show me a serious plan, i'm readyo move. even if it requires some toh decisions on my part. and i'm hopeful that over the next couple of days 'll see this long jam broken because the american people i think understandably want toee washgton do its job. >> president obama ruled out a 2.4 trillion plan prosed by house republicans. >> in my expectation is that you will probably see the house vote on
it would have no choice but to default on some big bills, the ceo of walmart told congress today the squabbling here in washington could have a huge negative impact nationwide on an all fragile recovery. >> a default and the ripple effect i think would be impactful and representing our consumers, we think that that would be very, very difficult for the american economy to withstand at this point in time in our history. >> that's here at home. >>> then there are global worries. concerns that a default or even a close call here could rattle international markets and international economies like that domino effect back after the big wall street meltdown a few years ago. >> the united states is the largest economy in the world, one that matters, one that has spillover effects, not just around the borders, but on a complete basis, globally. >> so, the stakes, they're obvious. the path to the solution, however, not nearly as clear. >> is it today, is it tomorrow, is it friday? magic things can happen here in congress in a very short period of time under the right circumstances. >> now,
.5 trillion does not make any of the big issues go away. sooner or later republicans are going to have to swallow some revenue increases. host: what is the purpose of today's news conference from the president? caller: the purpose for the president is to set a delicate balance. on the one hand he wants to claim the political high ground, i assume, saying that he tried and pushed for historic bipartisan achievement. unfortunately, we will like it there. the reason is that republicans will not sign on to a bold, $1 trillion tax overhaul. so, he wants to show the voters that he is the big negotiator. everything that he said the revlon in 2008. but he does not want to poison the well to make these negotiations for the rest of the week. >> what is the main message coming from republicans going into this meeting? >> it would seem that their main message is probably going to stay the same period that we are for a big deal, but not a big tax increase. or any tax increase. once again they will be challenged to expand on this sharp rhetorical edge. id is a distinction without much of a differenc
it is that momentous. the flurry of talk last week about going big and swinging for the fences were underscoring the idea of the president and the speaker to persuade the democratic and republican rank- and-file to go for something as big as $4 trillion. it was a long shot to begin with. both sides decided to spend a few days pursuing this long shot and it turns out that speaker behner blinked first. he was the first one to realize publicly that he did not have the votes in his own troops to get this through because it would require too much. host: if the number goes down from $4 trillion, what gets left behind? guest: you go from $4 trillion down to something. the fall back number we think is $2.50 trillion. that is the amount of deficit reduction that would be necessary to get republicans to vote for an equivalent amount of debt ceiling increase. that is what is required to keep the treasury in the flush to get for the next election. that is the number and we know that the vice president had six members of congress and they were pretty close. they were at about $2 trillion. entirely from the s
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
with the details. the president is talking and they are hoping for a big grand bargain. what is your sense? >> reporter: well, they have to get one done. so it's sort of the opposite of a cliff hanger. we know how it will end. the question is how do they get there from here? the big question first of all that i can report is that the president told congressional leaders that under no terms will he sign a short-term deal. he is not going to accept anything other than something that raises the debt ceiling through 2012 and that is flat out a promise. he was unequivocal. beyond that, the question over the next few days is, how do they get to this negotiation and all eyes are on john boehner, speaker boehner is the man who has to explain to them where he can get the votes, what it would take for them to deliver. and they are really looking to him. all the negotiators, to explain what the deal would look like for them to get on board with that. >> let's look at the tough choices that they have to make. if you have a grand deal, you have to have a number of things. maybe social security means if
a lot. he want as big deal. will he and the president find a compromise? guess who is back? nancy pelosi, your favorite friend, the foam house speaker is back at the table and is in open the debt talks and wants to point the fingers at ... guess who? >> day one of 85 of the republican majority in the congress and we have not seen one jobs bill come to the floor. >>dave: day 185. we expect the republican congress to create jobs in less than a year yet the democrats had four years in control of congress and did what for jobs? >> and the day of fast tush around in the media and all at, quick response from romney about her comments. listen to this. uncertainty is probably the one thing, a heck of a problem. is my company going to be here? it is tough. things have to change. have to change. >>dave: that ad in response to comments early this week, from the senior advisor to president obama who said people will not vote based on the unemployment rate and jobs numbers but based on their situation. well, their situation is the unemployment rate. it is the jobs numbers. that is their reality. so,
you that you could save hundreds! yeah, that'll certainly stick with me. we'll take it. go, big money! i mean, go. it's your break, honey. same coverage, more savings. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >>> to norway now. today we learned that the lone suspect in that horrible bombing and shooting attack that killed 93 people has confessed to both. he is expected to make his first court appearance in oslo tomorrow. cnn's michael holmes will be there when he does. michael, today you met a norwegian man who has an unforgettable story about what happened on friday. >> reporter: yeah. casper largo is his name. he was one of several good americans who when the shooting erupted over on this island, they heard about it, they got on their boats, they went to the island and did remarkable things. getting dozens of those kids off the island as the shooting continued. i want you to listen to part of a conversation i had with him earlier today. >> i asked the guard to go off in the water and hold the boat. asking them to name themselves. >> you thought there was a kind of rapport? >> y
the moments. americans are outraged you have to big chunk of americans that still believe that she was guilty in this case and even though she was proven not guilty, many say that doesn't mean she was innocent. and protesters were out there, outside of the jail, waiting for casey to leave just outraged take a listen to what some people were saying. >> we're just out here, we don't care if it's raining, where the thunder is, we're out here. >> it's an important thing to boycott casey, that she gets no money, protest that this kill ser getting out. that she had such a jury trial that was as much a joke. six-year-old would have made a more conscientious decision. >> sheet's definitely guilty. >> and dave mentioned the facebook, there's the i hate casey anthony facebook page. 45,000 now. >> dave: it's up now 48,755 and i would imagine that list will continue to grow throughout the days and weeks ahead. >> clayton: another one, an f-casey anthony page. more than 775,000 individuals on that. so they were choosing between the two facebook pages the i hate casey anthony page and another one. >> ainsl
out the president has a big birthday bash scheduled for august 3rd, celebrities flying in from all over. and lo and behold, august 2nd is the deadline for getting something done so that he can have this massive -- maybe the biggest fundraising dinner in history for a birthday celebration. >> and here's iowa congressman steve king. >> it's not default. they've been calling it default to try to stampede people into taking a bad deal here in this congress. the american people understand this. they understand at least intuitively that it would be the president who would willfully default if there's to be a default. i'd like to think the investor markets understand that, too. >> keeping them honest, there's little reason to think that's true. and plenty of people in the gop establishment and the business community sending up warning flairs. officials at the bond rating company standard & poors today briefing freshman republicans about what might happen. political reporting tonight they were cautioned that one possibility is "a death spiral in the bond market". s & p is already on record
call, while we're waiting, is from big sandy, texas. scott is a republican. good morning. caller: yes, susan, if i were a republican and in the negotiations, i would continue to bring up the immorality that the democrats are willing to -- and the fact that they're willing to steal the liberty of future generations with this humongous debt. they need to hold their feet to the fire, and in the end, obama and the democrats will have to come around. there's no doubt about it. we've got the upper hand. even though you've got the press on the president's side, and i want all these democrats that have called in here supporting obama this morning, just ask yourself, are you honestly better off? has his policies actually helped this country? or is it sending this country to oblivion? none of his policies, none of his stimulus, none of it has worked. not one single bit of it. we're worse off now than when he took office, and we're continuing to go downhill. it's time this iron-headed fool relent and let the adults take over. host: thanks for your call. scott from big sandy, texas. here is speak
to the raise the ceiling between 2009 and today, and maybe beyond. so the spending part is a real big issue for a lot of american people. >> isn't it also the issue revenue, michael, they're not just talking about spending. they were talking about revenue when reid said, okay, fine, to the chagrin of some of es, said i'll take revenue off the table. >> what does that tell you, reverend? then you say no, we don't want to do that. >> but what does that tell you? the president has been all over the place without a plan since the beginning of is the year. the fact of the matter is at one point he wanted a clean debt bill, then was willing to accept one. at one point think say we want taxes, and then reid puts out a plan that, yeah, we'll do that. the only consistent argument that has been made is made by republicans saying no to the spending. >> no if it's reid, no if it's boehner, i mean -- >> where it gets back to the plan -- he'll sign it. >> michael, i don't understand how, in the face of the data of the american people is it that the republicans are tone-deaf or just don't care? >> i don't
forward. >>> big news this morning. first according to several reports the sexual assault case against dominique strauss-kahn is falling apart because his accuser may not be telling the truth. strauss-kahn has a bail hearing later today. cbs news correspondent elaine quijano is at the courthouse in manhattan with the latest. >> reporter: good morning to you. if true these new developments represent a stunning reversal of fortune for the man whose political and financial career all but disintegrated when he was arrested six weeks ago. two law enforcement officials told "the times" the case against dominique strauss-kahn could soon collapse because they have uncovered major holes in the credibility of the housekeeper who filed the charges. >> this defendant is charged with criminal sexual acts in the first degree. >> reporter: the woman charged that strauss-kahn assaulted her and forced her to commit a sex act when he came upon her while she was cleaning his $3,000 a night suite at new york's sofitel hotel. forensic evidence confirms a sexual encounter between the two took place but pros
been going on now since the big deal talks between boehner and obama broke down on friday among all the congressional leaders on how to fix basically one problem. that is, how long the debt limit increase we will do. they have not been able to resolve that problem. host: do you think there's a chance the house really will leave town? guest: i do not know. no one would confirm that. there were rumors yesterday, mainly from democrats. republicans said they had heard nothing like that. democrats also said they would be surprised if the house would do that. it will look terrible with this crisis hanging over the nation. crisis hanging over the nation. it has happened in on other occasions. host: lori montgomery, according to the senate schedule, harry reid will be announcing the schedule at 11:00 a.m. have you heard anything? guest: i have not. when i left last night, it was not clear. they were still planning to proceed as they have been talking about for a week. that is, when the house bill comes over, they want to tilt it -- to kill it. it's not clear how they will do that. will they
? >> reporter: i think it's a step in the right direction in terms of reaching a compromise. the big question remains while we have heard that harry reid signed off on the deal, where do republicans -- the key republican negotiators in this whole deal, where do they stand on the issue? in the house as well as in the senate. well, we're still obviously looking to get guidance on that. we have heard from one top senate republican leadership aide who said at least -- at least right now they're not there yet saying the agreement is not done and that they're still working on it. so it seems that while harry reid, he's onboard. seems at least for the part of senate republicans, seems there needs to be a little more work to be done before -- to get them onboard as well. >> okay. a little more work. do you have any idea about the timing? or we just don't know? it happens when it happens? >> to be honest, i don't think anyone really knows about the timing. this story has changed from moment to moment. it's very fluid. it's always the question, i promise you, it's the question that we've been asking ev
their vote last night? all eyes on wall street, a big drop for the dow jones in fear that the debt ceiling deal will not be reached. bad news about the pace of the economic recovery. f a quick update on bay area weather and traffic. >> in the morning. a live look at the san mateo bridge. gray skies, overcast and foggy conditions along the peninsula. on the eastern shore of the day, we are looking for conditions to really improve. richmond is looking for a sunny and 70 degree conditions, oakland, 73 and partly cloudy. in hayward, 83 and mostly sunny. a full check on weather in a couple of minutes. now, over to traffic. for northbound direction of interest rate to 80 right at saratoga. a motorcycle accident originally blogging only one lane of traffic. the chp in the emergency crews have arrived. currently the middle lanes are blocked. if sold check on this developing hot spot in my next report. if >> topping our news right now, more than 1000 people are expected to pay their last respects to marine county sheriff's deputy jim matheson. a memorial service for the nine year veteran stars at 1
's the big question, right? >> looking at the influence of the freshmen today, in general they believe and have very involved local voters to back them up that they were elected in 2010 with a mission to, reign in big government, specifically big government spending, and this debt ceiling debate fits right into that. here's more from one freshman tea partier. >> it would allow the debt ceiling to go up, but only if we had significant cuts, statutory caps and balanced budget amendment and there's a growing movement with that. we met with leadership, we met with majority leader eric cantor and were trying to impress upon them that we need to be for something as republicans, we need to define what we're for. >> senator paul says this is a fight, quote, too important to give up. jon. jon: what kind of influence do the new members have, though? >> well, republicans are in the minority and the senate, so less there, but in the house they're in the majority and tea partiers, or those who agree with the tea party on fiscal issues, among the 87 how freshmen have not been shy about staking their
for the tabloids. host: what about the broadsheets? guest: it is known occasionally. there was a big scandal about mp's expenses last year, which came from information that is the voice of -- information that is the will serve and got on a computer disk. my newspaper paid for that because they thought it was in the public interest. that is a rare instance of a broadsheet paper paying for information. for the tabloids, we call it checkbook journalism. salacious information about a night out on the town with a celebrity or pop star or encounters with celebrities. that culture has grown and become more insidious over the past 20 or 30 years. host: how would you describe, to help put it in perspective -- by the way, we will put the numbers on the screen as we continue this conversation about the phone hacking investigation in the u.k. prime minister cameron spoke this morning at a problem about it and we carry that live on c- span -- spoke this morning in parliament about it and we carry that live on c-span2. we carry rupert murdoch and rebekah brooks yesterday and we will speak about that. how do you
't mean anything in the big picture other than being very successful in getting the democratic senate and the white house to start talking about spending reductions as opposed to just raising the debt ceiling, so we have been successful that way. but ultimately because the's di don't have a parliamentary system -- >> you just said this word, i just saw jim demint this morning on another news program talk about, you know, no, you know, said no to the boehner plan and he's arguing against the boehner plan, campaigning against it. what do you tell folks who look up to jim demint in that republican conference of yours? >> well, first of all, i think the majority of our colleagues believe that it's important to give our leadership support, number one, number two, when people really stop to think of how far we have moved the discussion from raising taxes to only lifting the debt limit to being able to cut spending at the same rate, then they have to consider it as being quite successful, i think. but at the end of the day, i do believe that my colleagues think that the country has to come f
rates go up. credit cards, mortgage rates, auto loan rates. you mentioned august 3rd, that big social security payment? according to many republicans, unless we default on an actual debt we don't have to get our debt downgraded. according to s & p and ben bernanke, if you default on any payment you're supposed to make, even if it's not to a bond holder you could face that. >> republicans who say, look, i don't buy it's this big catastrophe waiting to hit after august 2nd. >> reporter: they absolutely could be right. but anderson, you and i were together on september 15, 2008 after they decided a lot of smart people decided to let lehman brothers fail thinking it's not that big of a deal. i don't know which way it's going to go. i don't know if we should be playing with fire like this. >> john, what do you make of jessica's reporting that she's hearing mitch mcconnell is wanting president obama to be at the table in any negotiations? >> as a couple of political reasons for that in the sense that then you can't cut a deal then the white house will say we're going to try this. to move th
. the key sticking point is this issue of raising the debt limit, large enough, big enough, so that it gets us through 2012, gets us into the spring of 2013. right now, of course, the boehner bill and what republicans were supporting would have this debt limit come to another vote in the next -- >> at this point in time -- >> harry reid wants to do is simply figure out a way to satisfy the second round of deficit reduction, create a stronger trigger potentially, whatever he can come to, to get more republicans to support his way in order to get this debt limit passed 2012. i think he's going to come to an agreement. the question is, how big of an agreement is it? is it an agreement that barely gets the eight republicans he wants? or does it get 20 republicans and sends a strong, bipartisan message to make sure this thing doesn't get gummed up again in the house. >> does he have a dance partner in terms of a republican willing to negotiate? >> reporter: he's got a few dance partners potentially, but right now he's not working very well with mitch mcconnell. that's not clear. but don't be sur
: i think they are looking at a deal short of this cut, cap, and balance. the would like a big deal as obama calls it. speaker john boehner is interested in that, but not much support in making a deal from his own caucus. willing to open his >> more from this morning's "washington journal." the role that religious conservatives are playing in politics. at the table, richard land of theouthern baptist convention. all of these fiscal matters. in terms of how a religus conservative views the nation's debt? >> guest: we're borrowing 41 ces of every dollar our government spends. we have been living way beyond our means for a lg time. if we do not quickly address it, and i mean quickly and significantly, we're going to foreclose our children and grandchildren's future. they will spend their entire lives paying off our debt. my generation will be the first generation in american history to be quick to the children and grandchildren and or standard of living than the one we had. my parents would be aghast at this theorld w ii generation would be aghast. their whole lives were dedicated to u
. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner claims his debt limit plan has been revived after a big last-minute fix. republicans reworked the package and now it's projected to cut more. $917 billion over ten years. >> it is a test. this is a big step trying to get control of our deficit and our debt. >> reporter: in an interview with brian williams for sunday special "taking the hill, inside congress" boehner played down the loud opposition from some of his own members. >> mr. speaker, is it fair to say that you have a bit of a rebellion on your hands or do you feel -- >> i have a little bit of rebellion on my hands every day. it comes with the territory. >> you don't worry? >> never let them see you sweat. >> reporter: the speaker is getting heat from democrats too. more than 50 just signed a letter saying they would block his plan because it would force us once again to face the threat of default in five or six short months. majority leader harry reid wants to kill the boehner bill and replace it with his own. >> i'm disappointed. i care about john boehner. i think he's a good person.
boehner and president obama are still in contact. they are still working towards an agreement. big stumbling block, taxes still in the way, martin. >> i should explain, mike, that you're inside because there's a lot of rain outside the white house today. >> another major storm, that's right. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >> well, now that he's walked out of debt talks with vice president biden, taken a fight to president obama and clashed with speaker boehner, is there any compromise that will sit with house majority leader eric cantor? nbc's luke russert is covering that. republicans, what are they willing to sacrifice in order to reach an agreement? got a copy of the "washington post" which liberally quotes you, but have you been able to get an answer to your question yet? >> reporter: no, and they offer two explanations as to why, martin. number one, they say that a concession republicans are making is just in fact allowing the debt ceiling to go up because that's something that's so unpopular within the house republican caucus. the popular sentiment here in washington, d.c.
, then we're all in big trouble. host: where do you think that that compromise needs to start? in which house? in the senate? does the president need get involved with this? caller: obviously now with this filibuster, the compromise needs start there. they can have no debate while this filibuster is going on and that's ridiculous at this point in time. it's simply asinine. host: last night, it a news conference, majority leader harry reid talked about compromise and criticized the republican efforts to filibuster his debt plan. this is what he had to say. >> >> tonight a bipartisan party rejected the boehner short-term plan. clearly, we've seen something we've even a lot in the senate but this time, the country's attention is focused on it, a filibuster. a filibuster to prevent us from moving forward on this legislation. the vote that i put forth is a compromise. we would have changed it more but as i indicated on the floor, we had no one to negotiate with. it really is a worst possible time in conducting a filibuster. they're forcing us to wait until tomorrow morning at -- let's see. t
boehner has proposed. boehner has a pretty big job on his hands of maintaining that republican unity that we have seen so far at a time when democratic kennedy is coalescing because of anger over how these talks have gone. host: alexander blogging, thank you. our question this morning is, with the debt limit is affecting more financial decisions. let's go to cleveland, ohio on the democratic line. caller: good morning. host: is it affecting your financial decisions? caller: at this point, no permit but i am living on a fixed income. i am very much worried about whether or not this debt limit will be raised or not to coz i know the treasury department is going to have to make some decisions if it is not raced. i am confident social security recipients will receive their cash benefits. i am also confident those who are desperately in need of their money will receive their benefits. i am confident president obama and the democratic party are going to look out for the needy but i am highly unsettled about what is going on. mr. bolton made the fact that i do not think this debt limit is s
. there was a big issue at the end of the last congress that threatened a meltdown over whether or not we were going to extend the package of tax cuts. then we have the cr, threatening to shut down of the government. now we are having a high-stakes game of chicken that could have significant implications for the global economy as well as devastation for what we face to going forward. and then you know what? we will be right back with that with the budget, not once but twice, before the election. most in the house want to see something that is more sustainable and allows us to get back to the business of helping all americans get back to work, rebuilding the country, and dealing with long-term solutions rather than short-term fixes to deal with theoretical issues with the budget. host: to be clear, if the reid proposal could come before the house, would you vote for it? guest: i have not seen it. i had a dinner with a friend of mine in the senate last night who says that they are interested in the details. they have not seen the details yet. i am not going to commit to something that no one i know ha
, on a big news day. we welcome you to america's news headquarters and lawmakers are racing against the clock, to finalize the possible deal before a scheduled vote on a democratic senate plan in three hours, and house speaker john boehner says he's hopeful and lawmakers will craft a package that can earn bipartisan support. >> i'm not going to put any deadlines but i think it is clear, should be clear to all of you, that senator mcconnell and i believe that we are going to be able to come to some agreement to end the crisis, as soon as possible. thanks. >> peter doocy live from washington with more, and what do you know about the phones deal. >> reporter: a senior republican leadership source told us what is in the framework of the tentative deal between republicans and the white house and it likes lot like the original boehner plan, but, with the timeline the president wanted. it would take us through 2013 and here's specific, a $3 trillion plan, that would raise the debt ceiling between 2.1 and $2.4 trillion. and cut a trillion dollars in spending right now, and, put together a special com
the c. and he appeared to be picking up the votes. lesson to shawn duffy. >> is this as big as we wanted to go? heck, no. we wanted to go bigger. we ran on going bigger. but this is the only proposal on the table that accomplishes the goals that we set out to do. >> progress but apparently and this is why we have such a drama unfolding on capitol hill, not enough progress. the speaker is still short the votes. he's delayed the key vote, a key vote to not only if you are sitting at home, maybe you think the debt ceiling should be raised, maybe you should, it's a fundamentally important political showdown, some people think the speaker's hold on his job could be in jeopardy if he loses this vote. let's go to kate bolduan, do they believe they can twist enough arms to get enough votes to pass this tonight? >> reporter: fabulous question this evening and one that is very hard to answer at this moment. i can tell you, let me just give you the lay of the land what you can probably see a little bit of, john, you were talking about the speaker's office, it's right down the hallway, what we're se
amendment? >> well, this has become a very big subject in the law professor world. the 14th amendment is one of the most familiar parts of the constitution, guarantees due process of law, equal protection of the law. but there is frankly a provision in section 4 that i have never paid any attention to before. and it goes like this. section 4 of the 14th amendment said "the validity of the public debt of the united states shall not be questioned". now, i don't know exactly what that means. i don't think anybody knows precisely what that means. but it has been suggested that under that provision, president obama could simply order that the debt be paid and that this crisis be forestalled. he has mostly reject that option, but as far as i've read their statements, they have not completely rejected that option. obama has always said, look, i think this should be dealt with by congress, not by unilaterally under the 14th amendment. but under my reading of their statements, they haven't completely ruled out in a total crisis situation invoking the section of the amendment and ordering the debt pai
or will this cause some bigger conversation? that's a big question. >> and earlier in the week, anderson, we were talking about whether the white house might possibly agree to some kind of a short-term patch of two to three days in order to get the negotiations really moving again. and i think, you know, as the clock ticks i think we have to look back to that scenario and wonder whether that's a possibility again. >> remember all that grand bargain big talk? doesn't that seem like 20 years ago? was that like two weeks ago? >> yeah. although if you talk to some democrats and jessica's been reporting that the white house is still talking about some kind of a grand bargain, right? so it seems like a long time ago. but funny how these things work, right? >> john, gloria thank you. i want to bring in two other perspectives now. on the left democratic strategyist cornell -- and former senate candidate mccain advisor and former hue let pack yard ceo, carly fiorina. carly, just in terms of the politics of, this how do you think republicans are looking at this in terms of the political who's going to get
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